TOWN OF OLD SAYBROOK
Harbor Management Commission
302 Main Street " Old Saybrook, Connecticut 06475-1741
Telephone (860) 395-3123 " FAX (860) 395-3125
REGULAR MEETING - September 14, 2009
1. Call to Order
Chairman Ray Collins called the regularly scheduled meeting of the Old Saybrook Harbor Management Commission to order at 7 p.m.
2. Roll Call
Ray Collins, Chairman
Dick Goduti
Pete Fredrickson, Secretary
Les Bowman
Jim Mitchell, Deputy Harbor Master, Dockmaster
Ruth Hockert, Clerk
Keith Nielsen, DOCKO
Paul Connolly, member of the public
3. Citizens with business before Commission
A new light installed on utility pole to east of North Cove Road launch ramp, Paul Connolly makes it difficult to come into the harbor at night. He was asking if the Commission has authority to do anything about it.
Motion - Dick moved that the Commission inquire of the Zoning Department, zoning regulations
concerning the light, Les Bowman seconded
4-0-0 motion approved
Keith Nielsen from Docko attended the meeting. Dick Goduti felt that Mr. Nielsen should
have been placed on the agenda to be allowed to speak. Ray Collins felt the Commission could
listen to Mr. Nielsen but no action would be taken this evening. Both applications discussed by
Mr. Nielsen have been pending for a couple of years.
Channelside was dredged with of a permit issued in the 1970s. There is an existing steel bulkhead in place. The houses are part of a sub-division and the docks are an accessory use.
The original dock plan had a boardwalk that DEP asked be removed. The ramps are very short.
Each dock can hold a boat up to approximately 32 feet. A COP was obtained about 5 years ago to put in a bulkhead. Mr. Nielsen believes there would be about 55 feet of maneuvering room
in the channel. Mr. Nielsen will advise when the item can be put on the agenda for neighbor input.
The proposed development on the old Persson property: originally the applicant proposed a rack
storage plan. The new plan that Mr. Nielsen presented, includes taking down existing buildings,
installing a trailer boat launch system; land storage as well as some slips. Mr.Nielsen has been
working with the Zoning Enforcement Officer and CRERPA regarding this permit. This would not be a marina but would have land side support such as bathrooms for the slip owners.
4. Minutes of August 2009 meeting
Motion Les moved to approve the Minutes as submitted but wanted to be put on the record that Mr. Goduti's statement which was read into the record about himself and Mr. Sanders is factually flawed
Peter Fredrickson seconded
3-1-0 Motion carried, Les Bowman opposed
5. North Cove
50% exemption requests; review of attendance list
Fred Volker email read into the minutes
The following were significantly under the 50% rule
Manafort
Dodd
Missell
Russian
Ikle
Blank
A letter will be written to everyone who did not make it 50% of the 13 times attendance was taken.
Dick Goduti stated that he does not like the moorings to be used as trophies.
Peter Fredrickson feels that the attendance system is flawed based on his own attendance. He feels that if someone were present 6 of the 13 times they should not receive the letter.
Les Bowman agrees the 50% rule is arbitrary, but he uses the mooring consistent with the rule.
Motion Dick Goduti moved to send everybody who did not make the 50% a letter, Les Bowman
seconded,
3-1-0 Pete Fredrickson opposed
Dick Goduti mentioned that his wife found the dumpster full of picture frames upon returning
to the dock this summer. Jim Mitchell said that happened last year as well. Dick observed a
neighbor from the condominiums throwing material in the dumpster. Dick requested a sign be
put on stating "Dumpster for boaters use only". Jim Mitchell will order.
6. Ferry Road Dock
STEAP GRANT update - none
Some of the holes were filled by the town crew but there are some additional holes.
7. Harbor Master Report - none
8. Dock Master Report
Numerous thefts have been reported to the Old Saybrook Police. Jim Mitchell reported that
years ago there used to be a night watchman. Jim Mitchell wanted to bring the thefts to the
attention to the Commission.
Letters will be sent to the mooring haulers- send a bid, haul moorings by end of first week of
November
9. Correspondence
DEP notice regarding tomorrow's meeting: Ray Collins asked who was attending tomorrow's
meeting, Les may attend, Peter Dick and Ray will attend
8/27/09 - Walter Gayeski July 9, 2008 letter regarding his request to be placed on the wait list
in July 2008 which never arrived in the town hall. He asked that he be placed in his proper
place. The Commission agreed to do so.
Correspondence from the Zoning Commission Oct 5 Public Hearing regarding petition to amend
regulations
DEP notice regarding Channelside (previously discussed)
10. New Business
11. Old Business
Fee Schedule- Dick feels the Commission needs to confirm with the Selectman that the fee
increase be placed on the Town Meeting agenda in November. Mr. Collins has already done so.
Parking at Sheffield Street- Dick Goduti has done some research and he feels that the end of the
street was a turnaround not a parking area. The Police Commission has the authority to manage the parking. Les Bowman suggested that the Harbor Commission put forth a proposal to the Police
Commission. This will be put on the agenda again. Ray Collins will come back to the Harbor
Commission with additional information after the election. Les Bowman is going to get
some background from the Scaramellas.
Jim Mitchell does feel that painting the signs and docks no fishing has helped.
Harbor Management Plan Update - meeting scheduled with DEP in September this item
continued to agenda after meeting is held
12. Approval of bills
McDonald Sharpe - 11/98 - 8/09 $ 4326.50
Saybrook Hardware $ 2
Olsen Sanitation $ 166
Allcare $ 60.00
Ruth Hockert office supply $ 63.00
Beard Lumber $ 24.83
Motion - Peter Fredrickson moved to pay the submitted invoices, Les Bowman seconded
4-0-0 motion approved unanimously
13. Adjournment
Motion - Dick Goduti moved to adjourn at 8:30 p.m., Pete Fredrickson seconded.
Respectfully submitted,
Ruth Hockert, Clerk
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